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HD12443: TOOLPATH COLLISION

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APAR status

  • Closed as Permanent restriction.

Error description

  • Scenario 1:
    Open CATProcess1 (tool diameter: 10mm)
    In the tree unfold PO.1 / Manufacturing
    program.1 / Tool change
    Double click Multi-Axis Flank Contouring.1
    Replay
    An error window pops up:
    Tool path computation error.
    Probable error location:
    Drive element number: 3
    Axial level number: 1
    Radial path number: 1
    Impossible condition on the following surface
    A problem was found in the determining a final
    possition for
    the tool in relation to the following surface.
    Verify that you have not requested an impossible
    condition for applying the tool to the surface.
    *************
    Scenario 2:
    Open CATProcess2 (tool diameter: 6mm)
    In the tree unfold PO.1 / Manufacturing
    program.1 / Tool change /
    Manufac...
    Replay the toolpath: Collision with the part.
    *************
    Scenario 3:
    Open CATProcess3 (tool diameter: 12mm)
    In the tree unfold PO.1 / Manufacturing
                                      An error window pops up :
                                      Tool path computation error.
                                      Probable error location:
                                      Drive element number: 3
                                      Axial level number: 1
                                      Radial path number: 1
                                      Ending possition failure
    
    The system cannot possition the tool.
    Some possible reasons are:
    Failure on drive 1: check the start element, try a
    manual reference point and manual direction to
    start.
    Failure on drive 2: check the start element and the
    drives order.
    Failure on other drive: the curvature+thickness of
    the Corner
    is greater than the body radius of the tool.
    
    .
    

Local fix

Problem summary

  • toolpath collision
    Scenario 1:
    Open CATProcess1 (tool diameter: 10mm)
    In the tree unfold PO.1 / Manufacturing
    program.1 / Tool change
    Double click Multi-Axis Flank Contouring.1
    Replay
    An error window pops up:
    Tool path computation error.
    Probable error location:
    Drive element number: 3
    Axial level number: 1
    Radial path number: 1
    Impossible condition on the following surface
    A problem was found in the determining a final
    possition for
    the tool in relation to the following surface.
    Verify that you have not requested an impossible
    condition for applying the tool to the surface.
    *************
    Scenario 2:
    Open CATProcess2 (tool diameter: 6mm)
    In the tree unfold PO.1 / Manufacturing
    program.1 / Tool change /
    Manufac...
    Replay the toolpath: Collision with the part.
    *************
    Scenario 3:
    Open CATProcess3 (tool diameter: 12mm)
    In the tree unfold PO.1 / Manufacturing
    program.1 / Tool change
    Double click Multi-Axis Flank Contouring.1
    Replay
    An error window pops up :
    Tool path computation error.
    Probable error location:
    Drive element number: 3
    Axial level number: 1
    Radial path number: 1
    Ending possition failure
    The system cannot possition the tool.
    Some possible reasons are:
    Failure on drive 1: check the start element, try a
    manual reference point and manual direction to
    start.
    Failure on drive 2: check the start element and the
    drives order.
    Failure on other drive: the curvature+thickness of
    the Corner
    is greater than the body radius of the tool.
    
    .
    

Problem conclusion

  • THIS PROBLEM IS PERMANENT RESTRICTION IN CATIA
    
    Incident Diagnosis
    toolpath collision
    
    
    Restriction Explanation
    General comment on toolpath collisions:
    Almost faces selected as drives in FC5X are
    not ruled and therefore not fully flank millable...
    -> Isoparametric Machining with 89deg. tilt
    angle may be better solution.
    
    
    By-Pass
    3 main problems were openned :
    
    1/ Failure in toolpath computation (from left to right
    side)
    
    Comment about geometry :
    The 2 fillets have important counter drafts area.
    Drive.1 is really thin w.r.t. its height ( 30 mm).
    That is reducing the area to positionning the
    tool and make it difficult mainly in case of long tools
    
    Solution :
    => To define a maximum User Cutting length
    equals to the height of the drive (30mm)
    TP computation will succeed better
    
    2/ Collision on the fillet
    
    Comment about geometry :
    The fillet is concave (along its height) and not
    ruled therefore not 100% flank millable.
    To tune the Contact Height parameter allow to
    reduce the gouging in dividing it up the drive but
    will never avoid it.
    
    Solutions :
    => From R13: In FC5X, user can select a
    global guiding curve (e.g. the upper contour of the
    drive) and ask to stay on 1 side of this curve 'if
    needed' (i.e. in case of collisions)
    This will avoid collisions but some
    material will be left. May be used for roughing
    => Advice: To machine this kind of not fully
    flank millable surface with Isoparametric Machining
    for finishing
    
    3/ Toolpath computation from right to left side
    
    Comment about FC5X specifications :
    All geometrical elements selected as Drives,
    Parts or Start/End are ALWAYS extended for tool
    positionning.
    
    This case :
    We want to machine Drive.1 (U-shape) in going
    from Start to Drive.2
    Drive.2 extension break Drive.1 sooner than
    expected.
    
    Solutions :
    => 2 Design tips :
    A/ To split Drive.1 into 2 elements (to use 2nd
    element as end on 1st element)
    B/ To create a small fillet between Drive.2 and
    Drive.3 (to limit extension)
    => NC ERD : To provide V5-user the capability
    to select locally which (1st or 2nd) intersection
    between Drive.X and Drive.X+1 he wants to take
    into account. (As in Sequential Flank in V4-
    MFGProg : intersection number on CS)
    
    .
    

Temporary fix

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APAR Information

  • APAR number

    HD12443

  • Reported component name

    CATIA V5/NT/200

  • Reported component ID

    569151000

  • Reported release

    512

  • Status

    CLOSED PRS

  • PE

    NoPE

  • HIPER

    NoHIPER

  • Special Attention

    NoSpecatt

  • Submitted date

    2003-10-10

  • Closed date

    2003-10-24

  • Last modified date

    2003-10-24

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Fix information

Applicable component levels

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Document Information

Modified date:
24 October 2003