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HD68932: DMUKIN:WRONG CONSTRAINTS ARE CREATED IN DMU KINEMATICS WHICH CAN NOT BE CREATED IN ASSEMBLY DESIGN.

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APAR status

  • Closed as Permanent restriction.

Error description

  • DMUKIN:WRONG CONSTRAINTS ARE CREATED IN
    DMU KINEMATICS WHICH CAN NOT BE CREATED
    IN ASSEMBLY DESIGN.
    .
    SCENARIO:
    1. Launch CATIA V5R17SP5,
    open "TEST.CATProduct" & goto Assembly W/b.
    2. Click "Coincidence Constraint" icon in
    Constraints toolbar, then select "Line.1" in "Part1"
    and "Line.1" in "Part2".
    3. A warning window opens : "Loop design between
    geometry and constraints"
    4. In the same way, a constraint can not be
    created between "Plane.1" in "Part1" and "Plane.2"
    in "Part2"
    5. Now Switch to "DMU Kinematics" w/b.
    6. Click "Fixed Part" icon to create a new
    mechanism, then select "Part.1" to fix it.
    7. Click "Prismatic Joint" icon in "Kinematics Joints"
    toolbar.
    8. A window "Joint Creation: Prismatic" opens.
    9. For Line 1, select Line of part 1 & for Line 2,
    select line of Part 2.
    10.Similarly select Plane 1 & Plane 2. Click
    on "Length Driven" option & click "OK"
    11.A information window opens "The Mechanism
    can be simulated", Click "OK".
    12.In specification tree, Constraints are created
    although they can not be created at step no. 2 & 4.
    13.Now move the Part 2 in such away that Plane 2
    is not parallel to the Plane 1.
    14.Click on "Update" icon.
    15.Part 2 does not come to its original position.
    16.Execute a simiration.A warning message
    appears to perform update.
    17.Click on "Yes". Then the simulation can be done
    with the partial constraints & Part 2 is not in its
    original position.
    .
    RESULT: The constraints which can not be created
    in ASSEMBLY DESIGN, can be created in DMU
    KINEMATICS.
    .
    EXPECTED RESULT: Wrong constraints should not
    be created on DMU Kinematics workbench as in
    Assembly Design workbench.
    

Local fix

Problem summary

  • DMUKIN:WRONG CONSTRAINTS ARE CREATED IN
    DMU KINEMATICS WHICH CAN NOT BE CREATED
    IN ASSEMBLY DESIGN.
    .
    SCENARIO:
    1. Launch CATIA V5R17SP5,
    open "TEST.CATProduct" & goto Assembly W/b.
    2. Click "Coincidence Constraint" icon in
    Constraints toolbar, then select "Line.1" in "Part1"
    and "Line.1" in "Part2".
    3. A warning window opens : "Loop design between
    geometry and constraints"
    4. In the same way, a constraint can not be
    created between "Plane.1" in "Part1" and "Plane.2"
    in "Part2"
    5. Now Switch to "DMU Kinematics" w/b.
    6. Click "Fixed Part" icon to create a new
    mechanism, then select "Part.1" to fix it.
    7. Click "Prismatic Joint" icon in "Kinematics Joints"
    toolbar.
    8. A window "Joint Creation: Prismatic" opens.
    9. For Line 1, select Line of part 1 & for Line 2,
    select line of Part 2.
    10.Similarly select Plane 1 & Plane 2. Click
    on "Length Driven" option & click "OK"
    11.A information window opens "The Mechanism
    can be simulated", Click "OK".
    12.In specification tree, Constraints are created
    although they can not be created at step no. 2 & 4.
    13.Now move the Part 2 in such away that Plane 2
    is not parallel to the Plane 1.
    14.Click on "Update" icon.
    15.Part 2 does not come to its original position.
    16.Execute a simiration.A warning message
    appears to perform update.
    17.Click on "Yes". Then the simulation can be done
    with the partial constraints & Part 2 is not in its
    original position.
    .
    RESULT: The constraints which can not be created
    in ASSEMBLY DESIGN, can be created in DMU
    KINEMATICS.
    .
    EXPECTED RESULT: Wrong constraints should not
    be created on DMU Kinematics workbench as in
    Assembly Design workbench.
    

Problem conclusion

  • THIS PROBLEM IS PERMANENT RESTRICTION IN Realistic Simulation
    Additional Closure Information:
    THIS PROBLEM IS PERMANENT RESTRICTION IN
    CATIA.
    Incident Diagnosis
    DMUKIN:WRONG CONSTRAINTS ARE CREATED IN
    DMU KINEMATICS WHICH CAN NOT BE CREATED
    IN ASSEMBLY DESIGN.
    .
    Restriction Explanation
    This is not a defect but a methodology problem,
    plesae refer to attached ppt.
    .
    By-Pass
    build the assembly structure in a different way
    (skeleton methodology). This configuration is not
    supported by KIN application.
    

Temporary fix

Comments

APAR Information

  • APAR number

    HD68932

  • Reported component name

    CATIA V5 NT>XP

  • Reported component ID

    569151000

  • Reported release

    517

  • Status

    CLOSED PRS

  • PE

    NoPE

  • HIPER

    NoHIPER

  • Special Attention

    NoSpecatt

  • Submitted date

    2007-11-05

  • Closed date

    2012-02-14

  • Last modified date

    2012-02-14

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Fix information

Applicable component levels

[{"Business Unit":{"code":"BU053","label":"Cloud & Data Platform"},"Product":{"code":"SSVJ2K","label":"CATIA"},"Component":"","ARM Category":[],"Platform":[{"code":"PF025","label":"Platform Independent"}],"Version":"517","Edition":"","Line of Business":{"code":"LOB10","label":"Data and AI"}}]

Document Information

Modified date:
14 February 2012