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Yeah, this is in interesting development, though I must say I don't really understand the implications.As we discussed today, the only real tangible benefit I can foresee (so far) is companies or organizations that provide software that depends on a J2SE runtime but doesn't ship with a J2SE runtime (like Eclipse) will now be able to ship with a J2SE runtime. This seems like more of a convenience than anything since today any Eclipse user can download the IBM or Sun J2SE runtime for free.I mean, it seems like people wouldn't be committing to a huge project like this if there weren't some big implications... what are they?!Maybe Stephen O'Grady can chime in on this one since he explained the Gluecode acquisition so well...

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I don't claim any insight worthy of Bill's pointer ;), but FWIW I did a write up of the Harmony announcement here: http://www.redmonk.com/sogrady/archives/000670.htmlBasically, I question what's actually being solved here, but do applaud their intentions.

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Thanks for the link to your blog entry Stephen.I was just reading through the Harmony proposal and was disappointed with the "Motivation" section, which I'll quote here. I've italicized the most interesting part:

There is a clear need for an open-source version of Java 2, StandardEdition (J2SE) runtime platform, and there are many ongoing effortsto produce solutions (Kaffe, Classpath, etc). There are also effortsthat provide alternative approaches to execution of Java bytecode(GCJ and IKVM). All of these efforts provide a diversity ofsolutions, which is healthy, but barriers exist which prevent theseefforts from reaching a greater potential.
Oi vey. This motivation is incredibly weak. He really needs to re-write it and say something other than "This is important because I assert that it's important". I.e. enumerate the underlying reasons that lead to a "clear need".But to be fair, I'm guessing that this guy has earned his stripes writing code, not writing software business cases. These folks need a good business analyst to help them on their business case!

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sometimes its a good idea becasue we think it is is the only argument that matters. for people that get things done, rather than sitting around talking about getting things done, you could argue that's the primary motivation.

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