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OFWHMG
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Pinned topic Ordering Connections

‏2013-12-16T17:20:28Z |

We have four types of CICS regions (DEV, TST, TEC, and PROD) for a total of 19.  I want to order those regions in the CMCI part of the Connections View with the TEC regions first, the DEV second,  the TST regions third, and finally the PRD region.  I tried to do this by changing the configID of the connections file I loaded.  Below is my the XML for my CICS regions

    <type type="com.ibm.cics.sm.comm.sm.connection">
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-01" host="xxx.yyy.corp" name="Tec1 - Tech LPAR" port="3401" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-02" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Tec1 - Prod LPAR" port="3401" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-03" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev1"             port="3411" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-04" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev2"             port="3412" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-05" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev3"             port="3413" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-06" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev4"             port="3414" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-07" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev5"             port="3415" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-08" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev6"             port="3416" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-09" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev7"             port="3417" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-10" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev8"             port="3418" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-11" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Dev9"             port="3419" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-12" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Tst1"             port="3421" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-13" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Tst2"             port="3422" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-14" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Tst3"             port="3423" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-15" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Tst4"             port="3424" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-16" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Tst5"             port="3425" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-17" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Tst9"             port="3429" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-18" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Trn"              port="3420" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
        <configID ATTEMPT_SECURE="false" configID="1381255234000-19" host="xxx.yyy..corp"  name="Prod"             port="3435" ssl_confirmed="false"/>
    </type>    

The regions are ordered in the view in a completely random order.  My question is can I somehow order connections vial the XML definition file or must I do a Request For Change?  Attatned is the order the above XML produced in the connections view.

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  • DaveN
    DaveN
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    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2013-12-30T09:26:31Z  

    Hi there,

    Yes - the ordering does appear a bit arbitrary. Strange that I haven't noticed that before.

    Are you on our beta programme?

    Dave

  • OFWHMG
    OFWHMG
    36 Posts

    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2013-12-30T12:27:06Z  
    • DaveN
    • ‏2013-12-30T09:26:31Z

    Hi there,

    Yes - the ordering does appear a bit arbitrary. Strange that I haven't noticed that before.

    Are you on our beta programme?

    Dave

    I am not in your beta programme but if this ordering issue would be addressed in that program sign me up and I will test any code changes for you!

  • DaveN
    DaveN
    83 Posts

    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2013-12-30T20:48:31Z  
    • OFWHMG
    • ‏2013-12-30T12:27:06Z

    I am not in your beta programme but if this ordering issue would be addressed in that program sign me up and I will test any code changes for you!

    :-)

    If you send me an email - dave.nice@uk.ibm.com, we can investigate whether your company are willing to get involved!

    Dave

  • OFWHMG
    OFWHMG
    36 Posts

    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2014-01-02T12:09:14Z  

    I checked with my boss and he reminded me that we have a no beta participation policy.  Don't ask me why.  I also noticed that when I call up the connections in the lower right of the CICS Perspecdtive the connections are ordered alphabetically.  See attachment. 

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  • OFWHMG
    OFWHMG
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    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2014-01-02T12:10:26Z  

     

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  • DaveN
    DaveN
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    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2014-01-03T09:01:11Z  
    • OFWHMG
    • ‏2014-01-02T12:09:14Z

    I checked with my boss and he reminded me that we have a no beta participation policy.  Don't ask me why.  I also noticed that when I call up the connections in the lower right of the CICS Perspecdtive the connections are ordered alphabetically.  See attachment. 

    Hey,

    OK - I couldn't open either of the images for some reason, but if the connections are appearing in a rational order for you that's good news :-)

    Dave

  • KevinWickNTRS
    KevinWickNTRS
    9 Posts

    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2014-01-06T16:52:49Z  
    • OFWHMG
    • ‏2014-01-02T12:09:14Z

    I checked with my boss and he reminded me that we have a no beta participation policy.  Don't ask me why.  I also noticed that when I call up the connections in the lower right of the CICS Perspecdtive the connections are ordered alphabetically.  See attachment. 

    If I switch to the CICS Perspective, my connections still appear to be in a random order.  What's even more weird is that if I connect or disconnect, the systems move up or down the list.  It's very strange.

  • DaveN
    DaveN
    83 Posts

    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2014-01-06T16:59:51Z  

    If I switch to the CICS Perspective, my connections still appear to be in a random order.  What's even more weird is that if I connect or disconnect, the systems move up or down the list.  It's very strange.

    Hi Kevin,

    This is a known issue - there is no provision in the 5.1.x code for sorting the connections, currently.

    Dave

  • CraigSchnurbusch
    CraigSchnurbusch
    13 Posts

    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2014-02-13T21:31:00Z  

    I was about to ask this same question and noticed this thread, so I will join it.  We have over 200 z/OS FTP connections defined.  I went through the effort to assign them a unique configID so they would be ordered as desired.  But, as noted above, there is no order, not order of creation, not by configID, and not by name.  In 30 years of experience I've never seen that done before.  Very unusual.  Ordering by configID would be logical.  I'm going to have to explain this to the various teams using CE.  Can you put some target in place for this function?  I'm looking to sound somewhat intelligent when I explain this by being able to give some idea of when this function will become available.  In the meantime, the shear frustration of trying to locate the desired connection will force some away from CE. 

  • DaveN
    DaveN
    83 Posts

    Re: Ordering Connections

    ‏2014-02-14T14:42:26Z  

    I was about to ask this same question and noticed this thread, so I will join it.  We have over 200 z/OS FTP connections defined.  I went through the effort to assign them a unique configID so they would be ordered as desired.  But, as noted above, there is no order, not order of creation, not by configID, and not by name.  In 30 years of experience I've never seen that done before.  Very unusual.  Ordering by configID would be logical.  I'm going to have to explain this to the various teams using CE.  Can you put some target in place for this function?  I'm looking to sound somewhat intelligent when I explain this by being able to give some idea of when this function will become available.  In the meantime, the shear frustration of trying to locate the desired connection will force some away from CE. 

    Hi Craig.

    Thanks for this - as you've seen it's something we're aware of. If you have a formal requirement then please do raise an RFE.

    I would suggest that it would be worth looking at the CICS beta programme - this is the best way for customers to understand and influence the design of capabilities planned for future release - note that our plans can change and content in a beta program may not make a release. You're also able to have more detailed discussions within a non-disclosure agreement.

    Dave