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  • Latest Post - ‏2013-03-28T14:40:00Z by pdhawan
pdhawan
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Pinned topic License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

‏2013-03-22T20:13:46Z |
Hello
Two questions:

I am planning to get 9110-510 but wanted to know if the APV or powervm is part of the machine to create vio & lpar's or do I have to buy the licenses separetely?

Can I have dual vio's on this machine?

Thanks
Updated on 2013-03-28T14:40:00Z at 2013-03-28T14:40:00Z by pdhawan
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
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    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-25T10:54:29Z  
    Hi,

    Isn't this server withdrawn from market, long back? Please refer this link:
    http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd&subtype=sm&appname=pseries&htmlfid=897/ENUS9110-_h01#SHeader_14
    Cheers!!
  • pdhawan
    pdhawan
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    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-25T19:25:03Z  
    Hi,

    Isn't this server withdrawn from market, long back? Please refer this link:
    http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd&subtype=sm&appname=pseries&htmlfid=897/ENUS9110-_h01#SHeader_14
    Cheers!!
    I know it's withdrawn but since I am astudent learning I wanted to know if I buy a box where & how would I be able to get the APV licensing?
  • seroyer
    seroyer
    352 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-26T15:54:39Z  
    If you contact IBM sales, they should be able to sell you an APV key for that system.

    Dual VIOS requires an HMC, and requires dedicated hardware for each VIOS. You may have difficulty getting enough dedicated hardware in a 510 to be able to run dual VIOS, especially if you want to use local disk. It should be easier if you want to use SAN to boot your VIOSs, you'd just need two fibre channel cards and an Ethernet card. One VIOS would use the embedded Ethernet and other would use the PCI card. There are only 3 PCI slots in a 510, so that's all the hardware you could use.

    Steve
  • pdhawan
    pdhawan
    9 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-27T00:37:16Z  
    • seroyer
    • ‏2013-03-26T15:54:39Z
    If you contact IBM sales, they should be able to sell you an APV key for that system.

    Dual VIOS requires an HMC, and requires dedicated hardware for each VIOS. You may have difficulty getting enough dedicated hardware in a 510 to be able to run dual VIOS, especially if you want to use local disk. It should be easier if you want to use SAN to boot your VIOSs, you'd just need two fibre channel cards and an Ethernet card. One VIOS would use the embedded Ethernet and other would use the PCI card. There are only 3 PCI slots in a 510, so that's all the hardware you could use.

    Steve
    Thanks for the reply. I googled & it said that I can use IVM to create vio if I intend not to use HMC.
  • seroyer
    seroyer
    352 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-27T14:10:01Z  
    • pdhawan
    • ‏2013-03-27T00:37:16Z
    Thanks for the reply. I googled & it said that I can use IVM to create vio if I intend not to use HMC.
    Yes, you can use IVM. Keep in mind that you cannot use dual VIOS with IVM.

    Steve
  • pdhawan
    pdhawan
    9 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-27T15:21:28Z  
    • seroyer
    • ‏2013-03-27T14:10:01Z
    Yes, you can use IVM. Keep in mind that you cannot use dual VIOS with IVM.

    Steve
    Thanks again.
    Is there a way out to get dual vio without HMC as I cannot invest a lot of money since it's for learning purpose.
    How about if I get 9111-520, would it be a better option.

    Also, I see that you replied to my other question in regard to simulator for virtualization where you mentioned to use system planning tool.
    Do you think it will be the same instead of me buying a machine where I can create vio's, lpar's & then assign disk's?
  • seroyer
    seroyer
    352 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-27T16:51:29Z  
    • pdhawan
    • ‏2013-03-27T15:21:28Z
    Thanks again.
    Is there a way out to get dual vio without HMC as I cannot invest a lot of money since it's for learning purpose.
    How about if I get 9111-520, would it be a better option.

    Also, I see that you replied to my other question in regard to simulator for virtualization where you mentioned to use system planning tool.
    Do you think it will be the same instead of me buying a machine where I can create vio's, lpar's & then assign disk's?
    Dual VIOS requires HMC. That is the only way to have dual VIOS.

    If you are asking if there is a simulator where you can actually run the VIOS and the clients, no there is no such thing for Power. You must have the Power hardware.

    Steve
  • pdhawan
    pdhawan
    9 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-28T12:29:42Z  
    • seroyer
    • ‏2013-03-27T16:51:29Z
    Dual VIOS requires HMC. That is the only way to have dual VIOS.

    If you are asking if there is a simulator where you can actually run the VIOS and the clients, no there is no such thing for Power. You must have the Power hardware.

    Steve
    Thank you. I had a question if I get a server with APV license but the seller cannot provide me vio software cd's.
    Can I use company cd's where I am at present for installing software.
  • seroyer
    seroyer
    352 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-28T13:20:20Z  
    • pdhawan
    • ‏2013-03-28T12:29:42Z
    Thank you. I had a question if I get a server with APV license but the seller cannot provide me vio software cd's.
    Can I use company cd's where I am at present for installing software.
    The license is not associated with the media, it is associated with the server. So you can use any media. You can also download it from IBM if you have a valid SWMA (software maintenance agreement).

    Watch out for the version of the media, though. If it is 1.x then you will have to get 2.x migration media to upgrade before you can install the latest fix pack and service pack. See IBM Fix Central.
  • pdhawan
    pdhawan
    9 Posts

    Re: License on 9110-510 for virtualisation & vio's

    ‏2013-03-28T14:40:00Z  
    • seroyer
    • ‏2013-03-28T13:20:20Z
    The license is not associated with the media, it is associated with the server. So you can use any media. You can also download it from IBM if you have a valid SWMA (software maintenance agreement).

    Watch out for the version of the media, though. If it is 1.x then you will have to get 2.x migration media to upgrade before you can install the latest fix pack and service pack. See IBM Fix Central.
    I am not going to get SWMA as I am a student & don't want to spend money on contracts. I am just getting a licensed server with VET & then practice at home. Do you think I can still use the vio cd's?
    I have two old RS6000 server's & had aix installed from media without any license. This is what i want to do with vio's.
    Thanks