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toural
toural
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Pinned topic BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

‏2012-11-21T14:45:48Z |
We have installed BPM Process Center 8.0.1 Standard on Window 2008 R2 64 bits and 4 GB RAM yesterday, then we installed the Process Designer in a Windows 7 machine 4 GB RAM and imported the processes developed under BPM 8.0 and continue developing with them.

We were updating a coach and saving with no problems but after three or four saves (adding or removing components) the interface of Process Designer freezes with a pop-up with the following information:

Progress Information
Refresh Library

A dump is created including javacore files

The problem is very easy to reproduce, it is allways the same behavior.

There is no information registered in SystemOut.log at that time

After restart Process Designer you can work again with PD but not to save changes in coaches for more than about 3 times!

Any help would be really appreciated

Thanks
Updated on 2012-12-13T07:35:58Z at 2012-12-13T07:35:58Z by vlit
  • vlit
    vlit
    931 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-11-21T14:57:53Z  
    Hi,

    It is funny - 4 GB of RAM for BPM server Windows 2008.
    I think the heap by default - 768/2048?
    All save - this is the new snapshot and a lot of them save in the cache in memory.

    Out Of Memory, I think.

    Vladlen.
  • toural
    toural
    25 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-11-21T16:32:24Z  
    Hi, we have increased the RAM in the Process Center machine to 6 GB and also increase the heap size to 1 GB / 4 GB and repeated the test with the same result:

    We have just add a button to the coach and save the change with good response time then add a new button and save with a bit worse response time then added a third button and received for a while a "Not responding" message but finally was saved and then I tried to add a fourth button but the PD hanged and the damp was generated.

    Thanks in advanced, any idea is welcome.
  • vlit
    vlit
    931 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-11-21T17:42:59Z  
    • toural
    • ‏2012-11-21T16:32:24Z
    Hi, we have increased the RAM in the Process Center machine to 6 GB and also increase the heap size to 1 GB / 4 GB and repeated the test with the same result:

    We have just add a button to the coach and save the change with good response time then add a new button and save with a bit worse response time then added a third button and received for a while a "Not responding" message but finally was saved and then I tried to add a fourth button but the PD hanged and the damp was generated.

    Thanks in advanced, any idea is welcome.
    I didn't understand - the dump was generated on the server or client side?

    Try to edit eclipse.ini file:
    -Xms1024m
    -Xmx1024m

    And by the way - set heap 4096/4096.

    Vladlen.
  • vlit
    vlit
    931 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-11-21T17:47:13Z  
    • vlit
    • ‏2012-11-21T17:42:59Z
    I didn't understand - the dump was generated on the server or client side?

    Try to edit eclipse.ini file:
    -Xms1024m
    -Xmx1024m

    And by the way - set heap 4096/4096.

    Vladlen.
    Was DB installed on the same machine?

    Vladlen.
  • toural
    toural
    25 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-11-21T18:10:01Z  
    • vlit
    • ‏2012-11-21T17:42:59Z
    I didn't understand - the dump was generated on the server or client side?

    Try to edit eclipse.ini file:
    -Xms1024m
    -Xmx1024m

    And by the way - set heap 4096/4096.

    Vladlen.
    Hello again,

    the dump was generated in the client.

    After changing the eclipse.ini to the values you suggested, we no longer have the problem.

    Thanks very much for your help!
  • toural
    toural
    25 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-11-22T14:49:14Z  
    Hello again. Unfortunately the issue reappeared but this time after save changes more than 30 times.

    The configuration we have:

    DB is installed in a separated machine

    Process Designer:

    eclipse.ini

    -Xms1024m
    -Xmx1024m

    Process Center:

    Heap size 4096/4096
    RAM 6 GB

    It seems the memory assigned affects directly and delay the moment the error appears.

    Any idea is welcome

    Thnaks in advnaced
  • vlit
    vlit
    931 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-11-22T20:12:26Z  
    • toural
    • ‏2012-11-22T14:49:14Z
    Hello again. Unfortunately the issue reappeared but this time after save changes more than 30 times.

    The configuration we have:

    DB is installed in a separated machine

    Process Designer:

    eclipse.ini

    -Xms1024m
    -Xmx1024m

    Process Center:

    Heap size 4096/4096
    RAM 6 GB

    It seems the memory assigned affects directly and delay the moment the error appears.

    Any idea is welcome

    Thnaks in advnaced
    Hi,

    It's rather strange because RAM 2GB and heap=512 is usually enough.
    But the memory leak presents in our case.

    I advice only:

    1. Reinstall Process Designer.
    2. Try to do the same from an another workstation (RAM error may be).
    3. Add -XX:MaxPermSize=256m or 512
    4. Also, cannot your PD use not embedded JRE, but some other installed in your system? I that case, OOM is possible.

    Vladlen.
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
    7615 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-12-12T16:11:01Z  
    • vlit
    • ‏2012-11-22T20:12:26Z
    Hi,

    It's rather strange because RAM 2GB and heap=512 is usually enough.
    But the memory leak presents in our case.

    I advice only:

    1. Reinstall Process Designer.
    2. Try to do the same from an another workstation (RAM error may be).
    3. Add -XX:MaxPermSize=256m or 512
    4. Also, cannot your PD use not embedded JRE, but some other installed in your system? I that case, OOM is possible.

    Vladlen.
    Hi, I have same problem, Coach and Coach designer causes a lot of OOM, same behaivor than toural.

    and depends of who big Coach is.

    actually I use
    -Xms256m
    -Xmx1768m
    -XX:PermSize=128m
    -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
    -Xgcpolicy:optavgpause
    -Xgcthreads4
    -Xloa
    -Xloainitial0.4
    -Xloamaximum0.7
    -Xloaminimum0.2

    that reduce a few OOM, but it is few, some developers have same quantity of OOM than initial, but other have less.

    toural had you opened a PMR for this?
  • vlit
    vlit
    931 Posts

    Re: BPM 8.0.1 Process Designer hangs when saving

    ‏2012-12-13T07:35:58Z  
    Hi, I have same problem, Coach and Coach designer causes a lot of OOM, same behaivor than toural.

    and depends of who big Coach is.

    actually I use
    -Xms256m
    -Xmx1768m
    -XX:PermSize=128m
    -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
    -Xgcpolicy:optavgpause
    -Xgcthreads4
    -Xloa
    -Xloainitial0.4
    -Xloamaximum0.7
    -Xloaminimum0.2

    that reduce a few OOM, but it is few, some developers have same quantity of OOM than initial, but other have less.

    toural had you opened a PMR for this?
    Hello,

    I tried to reproduce this issue but I couldn't.
    I think it is a problem on your ProcessCenrer side (or database, may be).

    I've got an idea.
    Your Process Center isn't in time to process all the PD requests, they accumulate in PD heap and provoke OOM.

    Vladlen | http://bpmadmin.blogspot.com