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Pinned topic Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

‏2012-11-05T19:39:20Z |
Is there a way to draw a line snapped between two objects without having it be an object definition in the repository? I just want to illustrate that the relationship exists, but not so important that it needs a definition.
Updated on 2012-11-13T14:02:36Z at 2012-11-13T14:02:36Z by SystemAdmin
  • sammyc
    sammyc
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    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-05T19:52:02Z  
    Are you wanting to avoid filling out the property info for the relationship when you draw it or just having properties at all?
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
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    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-05T20:14:43Z  
    • sammyc
    • ‏2012-11-05T19:52:02Z
    Are you wanting to avoid filling out the property info for the relationship when you draw it or just having properties at all?
    I'd like to avoid any definition properties at all. It essentially becomes a symbol with no supporting definitions.
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
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    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-07T12:42:40Z  
    Yes, you can create a symbol without a definition.

    Controls for this are in the symbol format tab.

    Right click on the symbol type you are interested in.

    Uncheck the "Define".

    Now when you draw the symbol, you will be prompted to name it and you will not get a definition.

    You can also uncheck the "Name" check box. This will cause this the symbol to be drawn without a name.

    I recommend you also experiment with the the "Tools | Preferences" menu. This should be covered in the help file.

    There you should understand that you can globally turn off the prompt for a Definition and Name for all symbol types. This is kind of an "override" if you will.
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
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    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-07T13:13:14Z  
    Yes, you can create a symbol without a definition.

    Controls for this are in the symbol format tab.

    Right click on the symbol type you are interested in.

    Uncheck the "Define".

    Now when you draw the symbol, you will be prompted to name it and you will not get a definition.

    You can also uncheck the "Name" check box. This will cause this the symbol to be drawn without a name.

    I recommend you also experiment with the the "Tools | Preferences" menu. This should be covered in the help file.

    There you should understand that you can globally turn off the prompt for a Definition and Name for all symbol types. This is kind of an "override" if you will.
    my instruction should have said:

    Right click on the symbol, choose "Symbol Format > Symbol Style" then uncheck "auto name" and "auto define".
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
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    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-07T14:14:19Z  
    my instruction should have said:

    Right click on the symbol, choose "Symbol Format > Symbol Style" then uncheck "auto name" and "auto define".
    Thank you - I will give this a try!
  • sammyc
    sammyc
    106 Posts

    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-07T19:30:03Z  
    Yes, you can create a symbol without a definition.

    Controls for this are in the symbol format tab.

    Right click on the symbol type you are interested in.

    Uncheck the "Define".

    Now when you draw the symbol, you will be prompted to name it and you will not get a definition.

    You can also uncheck the "Name" check box. This will cause this the symbol to be drawn without a name.

    I recommend you also experiment with the the "Tools | Preferences" menu. This should be covered in the help file.

    There you should understand that you can globally turn off the prompt for a Definition and Name for all symbol types. This is kind of an "override" if you will.
    FYI - this approach will create an "Unnamed" relationship in the model - it will just appear on the diagram with no name and no definition info is required to be entered at the time of creation - but it still creates a definition under the association relationships definition (if you are using association rel type). The check boxes only eliminate the need to enter the name and definition info at the time you are creating/drawing it.
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
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    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-11T12:42:05Z  
    If it is a new symbol, you can simply define the new symbol in the USRPROPS, assign it to the diagram that you need, and just skip defining that symbol.

    For example, instead of:

    RENAME SYMBOL "User 1" to "My Symbol"
    RENAME DEFINITION "User 1" to "My Definition"

    SYMBOL "My Symbol"
    {
    ASSIGN TO "System Architecture"
    DEFINED BY "My Definition"
    }

    you can have something like this:

    RENAME SYMBOL "User 1" to "My Symbol"

    SYMBOL "My Symbol"
    {
    ASSIGN TO "System Architecture"
    }
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
    1061 Posts

    Re: Drawing Lines without definitions in SA

    ‏2012-11-13T14:02:36Z  
    If it is a new symbol, you can simply define the new symbol in the USRPROPS, assign it to the diagram that you need, and just skip defining that symbol.

    For example, instead of:

    RENAME SYMBOL "User 1" to "My Symbol"
    RENAME DEFINITION "User 1" to "My Definition"

    SYMBOL "My Symbol"
    {
    ASSIGN TO "System Architecture"
    DEFINED BY "My Definition"
    }

    you can have something like this:

    RENAME SYMBOL "User 1" to "My Symbol"

    SYMBOL "My Symbol"
    {
    ASSIGN TO "System Architecture"
    }
    Thank you - I am trying to render a network diagram where some types of connections between equipment won't require any definitions. Just a basic line is necessary.