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  • Latest Post - ‏2012-05-07T16:56:34Z by RuthHildebrand-Lund
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Pinned topic P8 5.1 and upgrades?

‏2012-05-07T16:15:22Z |
For new versions of FileNet can you create a parallel environment and point to the same DB2/FileServer and just switch over to the new server instead of updating the current running version?
Updated on 2012-05-07T16:56:34Z at 2012-05-07T16:56:34Z by RuthHildebrand-Lund
  • RuthHildebrand-Lund
    RuthHildebrand-Lund
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    Re: P8 5.1 and upgrades?

    ‏2012-05-07T16:34:04Z  
    It looks like you have a number of questions surrounding P8 5.1 and upgrades. Perhaps you can provide some more background on what you are trying to do and why, and then I can provide a more holistic answer. At a high-level, assuming the database software is at an appropriate level, yes, you can install the 5.1 Content Engine software on a new server. The Content Engine knows about the location of the databases via the JDBC connection definitions. When the Content Engine software is started, it will upgrade the databases as needed. You also need to make sure that the new CE server has access to any of the old file storage areas too.

    Depending on what level of CE you are starting from, there might be additional steps you need to take.
  • SystemAdmin
    SystemAdmin
    693 Posts

    Re: P8 5.1 and upgrades?

    ‏2012-05-07T16:37:46Z  
    It looks like you have a number of questions surrounding P8 5.1 and upgrades. Perhaps you can provide some more background on what you are trying to do and why, and then I can provide a more holistic answer. At a high-level, assuming the database software is at an appropriate level, yes, you can install the 5.1 Content Engine software on a new server. The Content Engine knows about the location of the databases via the JDBC connection definitions. When the Content Engine software is started, it will upgrade the databases as needed. You also need to make sure that the new CE server has access to any of the old file storage areas too.

    Depending on what level of CE you are starting from, there might be additional steps you need to take.
    Thank You. The customer is trying to plan for an upcoming install of P8 5.1 with Case Manager in a clustered environment and has the following questions with regards to upgrades/install/config. Any data at all as far as pointers will be helpful:

    · Is there an advantage to using WebSphere ND to WebSphere Base?
    What specific features of ND does FileNet use? Session Replication?
    Cache Replication? What do most customers use?

    · Is there a way to compare EAR's, configuration changes from
    one environment to another?

    · Do the clients need to be installed on every server? Can they
    be installed in one location and have the EAR(s) generated to point to a
    common location where the client jars are located?

    · Is there a way to promote changes (FileNet configurations,
    EAR's) from one environment to another? How do application teams
    release workflow changes?

    · Are there any processes in place to roll back to a previous
    version if an update causes an issue?

    · For new versions of FileNet can you create a parallel
    environment and point to the same DB2/FileServer and just switch over to
    the new server instead of updating the current running version?

    · If a new version of the Process Engine is released do you have
    to rebuild the Content Engine EAR to include the new Process Engine
    Client? Is this the same for Content Engine update and Case Manager
    updates? - If the PE gets an update you SHOULD only have to run the PE
    Client installer to grab the new version of the PE Client, which will
    need to be installed on the CE and the CM. This will need to be tested.

    · Is it possible to schedule tasks in FileNet Configuration
    Manager? - Not that I can find, there's seems to be no options for
    scheduling these to run through the Config Manager, though the scripts
    it runs could possibly be scheduled without using the Config Manager
  • RuthHildebrand-Lund
    RuthHildebrand-Lund
    19 Posts

    Re: P8 5.1 and upgrades?

    ‏2012-05-07T16:56:34Z  
    Thank You. The customer is trying to plan for an upcoming install of P8 5.1 with Case Manager in a clustered environment and has the following questions with regards to upgrades/install/config. Any data at all as far as pointers will be helpful:

    · Is there an advantage to using WebSphere ND to WebSphere Base?
    What specific features of ND does FileNet use? Session Replication?
    Cache Replication? What do most customers use?

    · Is there a way to compare EAR's, configuration changes from
    one environment to another?

    · Do the clients need to be installed on every server? Can they
    be installed in one location and have the EAR(s) generated to point to a
    common location where the client jars are located?

    · Is there a way to promote changes (FileNet configurations,
    EAR's) from one environment to another? How do application teams
    release workflow changes?

    · Are there any processes in place to roll back to a previous
    version if an update causes an issue?

    · For new versions of FileNet can you create a parallel
    environment and point to the same DB2/FileServer and just switch over to
    the new server instead of updating the current running version?

    · If a new version of the Process Engine is released do you have
    to rebuild the Content Engine EAR to include the new Process Engine
    Client? Is this the same for Content Engine update and Case Manager
    updates? - If the PE gets an update you SHOULD only have to run the PE
    Client installer to grab the new version of the PE Client, which will
    need to be installed on the CE and the CM. This will need to be tested.

    · Is it possible to schedule tasks in FileNet Configuration
    Manager? - Not that I can find, there's seems to be no options for
    scheduling these to run through the Config Manager, though the scripts
    it runs could possibly be scheduled without using the Config Manager
    That's a lot of questions! Please consider reaching out to the Case Manager team to get some additional assistance.

    Is there an advantage to using WebSphere ND to WebSphere Base?
    What specific features of ND does FileNet use? Session Replication?
    Cache Replication? What do most customers use?

    >> WAS ND is recommended because it provides an easier HA/DR story.

    · Is there a way to compare EAR's, configuration changes from
    one environment to another?

    >> In the Case Manager/P8 5.1 environment the tools used to perform configuration (CE Configuration tool, and Case Manager Admin Client (CMAC)) create profile files that can be used with other environments.

    · Do the clients need to be installed on every server? Can they
    be installed in one location and have the EAR(s) generated to point to a
    common location where the client jars are located?

    >> Not exactly sure what you are talking about here.

    · Is there a way to promote changes (FileNet configurations,
    EAR's) from one environment to another? How do application teams
    release workflow changes?

    >> Yes there are ways to promote changes, information on moving case solutions from a development environment to a production environment is described in the Case Manager InfoCenter

    http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/casemgmt/v5r1m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.casemgmt.installing.doc%2Facmde001.htm

    · Are there any processes in place to roll back to a previous
    version if an update causes an issue?

    >> No, there are no tools provided for rolling back to a prior version which is why we recommend you to take a backup/snapshot of environments prior to running an update.

    · For new versions of FileNet can you create a parallel
    environment and point to the same DB2/FileServer and just switch over to
    the new server instead of updating the current running version?

    >> Yes, see response to other post.

    · If a new version of the Process Engine is released do you have
    to rebuild the Content Engine EAR to include the new Process Engine
    Client? Is this the same for Content Engine update and Case Manager
    updates? - If the PE gets an update you SHOULD only have to run the PE
    Client installer to grab the new version of the PE Client, which will
    need to be installed on the CE and the CM. This will need to be tested.

    >> If you upgrade (via a new release, fix pack, interim fix etc.) the Process engine server, then yes, you should run the PE client installer to update the Content Engine, and any other applications that interface with the PE including Workplace, Workplace XT, IER, BPF, custom apps etc. The same is true when you update the Content Engine, you should run the CE client installer in all the appropriate locations too. Any time we release a server package with a client package, you always need to use both.

    · Is it possible to schedule tasks in FileNet Configuration
    Manager? - Not that I can find, there's seems to be no options for
    scheduling these to run through the Config Manager, though the scripts
    it runs could possibly be scheduled without using the Config Manager

    >> Correct, Config Manager does not provide any scheduling capabilities, but you can use the scripts generated by Config Manager with a scheduler.