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Pinned topic Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

‏2009-01-15T14:14:31Z |
Hi,

I'm trying to use a virtual machine engine on my IntelliStation machine.
For that I have to enable virtualization technology. I checked, and the machine's processors (Xeon) suppose to support VT.
However, I cannot find the place in the machine's BIOS where I can enable that feature in.

Can anyone help directing me to the right place for doing that?
Am I missing something (like BIOS update or something else)?

Some more details: the model number is IntelliStation Z Pro 9232-LMG

Thanks!
Alon
Updated on 2012-08-24T04:20:22Z at 2012-08-24T04:20:22Z by netman87
  • SystemAdmin
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-01-29T17:08:50Z  
    I was trying to do the same thing last year and contacted IBM Support. I was told even though the processor supports the option, their BIOS does not. The person could not give me any information about whether there are plans to update the BIOS to include tis feature.
  • SystemAdmin
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-02-02T06:34:36Z  
    I was trying to do the same thing last year and contacted IBM Support. I was told even though the processor supports the option, their BIOS does not. The person could not give me any information about whether there are plans to update the BIOS to include tis feature.
    Thanks sbatthula,

    Can I please get a formal IBM answer on that, before I mark that thread as "answered"?

    Thanks!
  • SystemAdmin
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-02-18T08:49:01Z  
    Same issue here. Processor provides feature, but linux kernel log says something like: "virtualization disabled by bios".
    Why don't you make a switch for enabling VT in BIOS? As everybody speaks about virtualization and zpro has the capability and will/must be used minimum the next 2 years for most customers (leasing), not having the chance of enabling it is a big disadvantage for users that need VT.
    You praise the virtualization capability of the CPU in the specs and product information of the zpro. I now want to use it.
    I would like to make it a wishlist item for the next BIOS release. I'd also use beta or "special" BIOS version only provided for testing from IBM.

    Cheers

    Holger Fischer
  • SystemAdmin
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-05-12T08:13:43Z  
    I have this problem too. Can someone help to solve it?
  • jwrose
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-10-08T16:44:22Z  
    I have this problem too. Can someone help to solve it?
    I've just found this post and think I've discovered why Hyper-V doesn't work on a Z Pro. I would also like to be able to use the virtualization feature of my CPU. Any update IBM?
  • Groovrider
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-10-13T18:13:35Z  
    • jwrose
    • ‏2009-10-08T16:44:22Z
    I've just found this post and think I've discovered why Hyper-V doesn't work on a Z Pro. I would also like to be able to use the virtualization feature of my CPU. Any update IBM?
    IBM do not, and will not support VT on the Intellistation Z Pro.
  • thrill
    thrill
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-10-17T20:35:21Z  
    IBM do not, and will not support VT on the Intellistation Z Pro.
    Does anyone know of a BIOS hack that will enable the virtualization capability of the Xeon processor for those of us that spent good money to buy our Z Pro machines?
  • thrill
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-10-22T21:11:57Z  
    • thrill
    • ‏2009-10-17T20:35:21Z
    Does anyone know of a BIOS hack that will enable the virtualization capability of the Xeon processor for those of us that spent good money to buy our Z Pro machines?
    FWIW to those who desire VT to be enabled on their Z Pros, I have contacted the CEO of IBM with my frustrations. Surprisingly (to me), I received a call from his office on the matter, and the problem has been highlighted and is being addressed by the "Team Lead, Client Satisfaction and Loyalty Project Office" of IBM Global Technical Support. Their technical crew works from Taiwan on this issue, and so there will be back-and-forth delays, but I have been told, by phone and email, on a daily basis since my correspondence, that the situation is being looked at as an "executive complaint". I will let people here know what resolution is decided on - we all hope of course it is a fully usable VT capability for our Xeon chipped systems.
  • SystemAdmin
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-10-23T01:14:33Z  
    • thrill
    • ‏2009-10-22T21:11:57Z
    FWIW to those who desire VT to be enabled on their Z Pros, I have contacted the CEO of IBM with my frustrations. Surprisingly (to me), I received a call from his office on the matter, and the problem has been highlighted and is being addressed by the "Team Lead, Client Satisfaction and Loyalty Project Office" of IBM Global Technical Support. Their technical crew works from Taiwan on this issue, and so there will be back-and-forth delays, but I have been told, by phone and email, on a daily basis since my correspondence, that the situation is being looked at as an "executive complaint". I will let people here know what resolution is decided on - we all hope of course it is a fully usable VT capability for our Xeon chipped systems.
    Sounds great! Would love to be able to test Hyper V immages on a Z pro.
  • federico.giampietro
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-12-14T00:07:24Z  
    Sounds great! Would love to be able to test Hyper V immages on a Z pro.
    Hello guys,
    any news from IBM?

    Regards, Federico
  • Dgran
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-12-14T14:08:00Z  
    No news :((((

    I purchase I7 950 and ASUS P6T mother board.

    Z pro 9228 in trash.
  • federico.giampietro
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-12-14T14:13:15Z  
    • Dgran
    • ‏2009-12-14T14:08:00Z
    No news :((((

    I purchase I7 950 and ASUS P6T mother board.

    Z pro 9228 in trash.
    Hmmmm.... reflash with another i5000X board BIOS?
  • Dgran
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2009-12-14T14:40:18Z  
    if ROM sealed it will be difficult to recover
  • Zantos
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2010-01-07T19:02:08Z  
    • Dgran
    • ‏2009-12-14T14:40:18Z
    if ROM sealed it will be difficult to recover
    I'm still hoping for a BIOS update... any news from IBM?
  • federico.giampietro
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2010-01-22T17:30:52Z  
    • Zantos
    • ‏2010-01-07T19:02:08Z
    I'm still hoping for a BIOS update... any news from IBM?
    Waiting for VT-x I installed Mac OS-X 10.5.8 on my Z-PRO 9228, GREAT!!!
    Video is OK and hardware accelerated, network is OK, audio 50% (only output from original chipset) but I'm using iSight also for mic input.
    Speed is... WOWWWW :)
  • federico.giampietro
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2010-01-22T17:33:53Z  
    NOTE: Direct install, not virtual machine ;)
  • ScottHasler
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2010-05-22T12:20:49Z  
    Was a solution for this ever published? Is there any work around?
  • thrill
    thrill
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2010-08-10T01:56:15Z  
    Was a solution for this ever published? Is there any work around?
    It was about a year ago that I posted that I had contacted the CEO of IBM to ask for assistance with this. I initially thought he had initiated an effort to solve this, and I did get a phone call from an assistant, and a followup email from an engineer who said he would look into it. A few weeks later he emailed me to say they did not intend to enable the VT bit, and that he was closing the ticket. I followed up with him that I did not understand why it was disabled, and that if someone could give some even unofficial direction that people would try to generate a workaround, however he declined to provide any direction and considered the case closed. I must say I was fairly disappointed, especially after the initial proactive response from the CEO's office.
  • centerline
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2010-08-26T11:43:58Z  
    Hi! I've luckily unlocked and enabled VT.
    First of all, my z pro 9228 BIOS is V1.45. Other BIOS versions can be different, I'm not sure.
    I prepared the DOS bootable usb memory key, and copied `symcmos.exe` into the root directory.
    If your Internal Floppy Disk is reliable, you can use a DOS boot floppy disk with `symcmos.exe`.
    Symcmos.exe is a DOS program to read/write the BIOS settings. Boot from usb key, at the DOS command line prompt, type:
    symcmos -v2 -L
    This command will read the BIOS settings and save them, in the same folder where command is executed, with the name LITERAL.TXT.
    Next, we modify one `token value` in the LITERAL.TXT. (We can make a backup copy of this text file before modification.)
    Open the bootable medium that contains DOS and the symcmos. Locate and open file LITERAL.TXT.
    It may be like this:
    CRC = 25D9
    (0000) 0000
    (0009) 0000
    (000C) 0000
    ---- ----
    The first column is (token index) and the second column is token value. Both columns are hexadecimal numeric representation.
    We modify:
    (0009) 0000 ---> (0009) 0001
    At the token index (0009), modify the token value from 0000 to 0001. The CRC is same value (=25D9 no change after modification).
    And save the modified text file. Again, boot from usb key DOS. To write the new settings of BIOS, enter:
    symcmos -v2 -uLITERAL.TXT
    When finished writing, the system must be powerd off (not `Ctrl+Alt+Del` reset).
    Then restart the z pro. We can check the VT function with `VirtualChecker`.
    Finally, BIOS update or rewrite is a very dangerous procedure. Please pay full attention and don't forget it is at your own risk.

    Good luck!
  • ScottHasler
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2010-09-27T19:19:25Z  
    Hi! I've luckily unlocked and enabled VT.
    First of all, my z pro 9228 BIOS is V1.45. Other BIOS versions can be different, I'm not sure.
    I prepared the DOS bootable usb memory key, and copied `symcmos.exe` into the root directory.
    If your Internal Floppy Disk is reliable, you can use a DOS boot floppy disk with `symcmos.exe`.
    Symcmos.exe is a DOS program to read/write the BIOS settings. Boot from usb key, at the DOS command line prompt, type:
    symcmos -v2 -L
    This command will read the BIOS settings and save them, in the same folder where command is executed, with the name LITERAL.TXT.
    Next, we modify one `token value` in the LITERAL.TXT. (We can make a backup copy of this text file before modification.)
    Open the bootable medium that contains DOS and the symcmos. Locate and open file LITERAL.TXT.
    It may be like this:
    CRC = 25D9
    (0000) 0000
    (0009) 0000
    (000C) 0000
    ---- ----
    The first column is (token index) and the second column is token value. Both columns are hexadecimal numeric representation.
    We modify:
    (0009) 0000 ---> (0009) 0001
    At the token index (0009), modify the token value from 0000 to 0001. The CRC is same value (=25D9 no change after modification).
    And save the modified text file. Again, boot from usb key DOS. To write the new settings of BIOS, enter:
    symcmos -v2 -uLITERAL.TXT
    When finished writing, the system must be powerd off (not `Ctrl+Alt+Del` reset).
    Then restart the z pro. We can check the VT function with `VirtualChecker`.
    Finally, BIOS update or rewrite is a very dangerous procedure. Please pay full attention and don't forget it is at your own risk.

    Good luck!
    I have a few of these that I can test this out on! I will post the results...

    I am sure I speak for quite a few people, but thanks a ton for that post!

    Scott
  • SystemAdmin
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2011-01-19T09:19:01Z  
    Hi! I've luckily unlocked and enabled VT.
    First of all, my z pro 9228 BIOS is V1.45. Other BIOS versions can be different, I'm not sure.
    I prepared the DOS bootable usb memory key, and copied `symcmos.exe` into the root directory.
    If your Internal Floppy Disk is reliable, you can use a DOS boot floppy disk with `symcmos.exe`.
    Symcmos.exe is a DOS program to read/write the BIOS settings. Boot from usb key, at the DOS command line prompt, type:
    symcmos -v2 -L
    This command will read the BIOS settings and save them, in the same folder where command is executed, with the name LITERAL.TXT.
    Next, we modify one `token value` in the LITERAL.TXT. (We can make a backup copy of this text file before modification.)
    Open the bootable medium that contains DOS and the symcmos. Locate and open file LITERAL.TXT.
    It may be like this:
    CRC = 25D9
    (0000) 0000
    (0009) 0000
    (000C) 0000
    ---- ----
    The first column is (token index) and the second column is token value. Both columns are hexadecimal numeric representation.
    We modify:
    (0009) 0000 ---> (0009) 0001
    At the token index (0009), modify the token value from 0000 to 0001. The CRC is same value (=25D9 no change after modification).
    And save the modified text file. Again, boot from usb key DOS. To write the new settings of BIOS, enter:
    symcmos -v2 -uLITERAL.TXT
    When finished writing, the system must be powerd off (not `Ctrl+Alt+Del` reset).
    Then restart the z pro. We can check the VT function with `VirtualChecker`.
    Finally, BIOS update or rewrite is a very dangerous procedure. Please pay full attention and don't forget it is at your own risk.

    Good luck!
    I tried changing this bit (0009) to 1 and it is not working. VMWare Workstation says the virtualization isn't enabled.
  • SystemAdmin
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2011-01-19T09:31:42Z  
    I tried changing this bit (0009) to 1 and it is not working. VMWare Workstation says the virtualization isn't enabled.
    Sorr, my fault. It really works! I missed that I need shut down the PC instead of restarting it. When powered my PC down and up again everything started to work. Thanks!
  • MattBatty
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2011-02-17T10:42:31Z  
    • Ludeksm
    • ‏2011-02-15T12:02:32Z
    Hello, can you please advise how can I turn on virtualization on my IntelliStation Z Pro 6223?
    symcmos symcmos gave me different information.
    I do not know how can I do it.
    Thank you very much for Your help!

    IBM BIOS -(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 2004 CP:60
    BIOS VERSION 1.70

    ( SYMBOLIC CMOS EDITOR - Version 643710-035 )

    CRC = 1608

    (0006) 0002

    (0009) 0001

    (000F) 0001
    ...
    Do Type 6223 machines even have compatible processors? I know none of mine do.

    Thanks a million centerline, this worked a treat on my 9228's!
  • MattBatty
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    Re: Enabling virtualization (Intel-VT) on IntelliStation Z Pro machine

    ‏2011-02-17T10:46:07Z  
    • Ludeksm
    • ‏2011-02-15T12:02:32Z
    Hello, can you please advise how can I turn on virtualization on my IntelliStation Z Pro 6223?
    symcmos symcmos gave me different information.
    I do not know how can I do it.
    Thank you very much for Your help!

    IBM BIOS -(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 2004 CP:60
    BIOS VERSION 1.70

    ( SYMBOLIC CMOS EDITOR - Version 643710-035 )

    CRC = 1608

    (0006) 0002

    (0009) 0001

    (000F) 0001
    ...
    Ludeksm

    Download and run this in windows to see if your 6223 processor supports VT.

    http://www.grc.com/securable.htm