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  • Latest Post - ‏2014-11-20T16:13:04Z by Mathias Mamsch
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Pinned topic DOORS 9.6

‏2014-07-24T17:32:12Z |

Anyone using this DOORS version and if so, what are your thoughts?  From what I read online and me evaluating it, it is so so.  It has some nice features that we been asking for many years ( e.g. being able to display the link indicators on another attribute ) but don't see a need for an upgrade.

  • Tony_Goodman
    Tony_Goodman
    271 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-07-25T10:23:10Z  

    Why are you posting using a fake name and disposable email address?

  • a8155058
    a8155058
    28 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-07-25T16:07:06Z  

    Why are you posting using a fake name and disposable email address?

    I lost my previous forum ID credentials ( forgot what my IBM ID was so can't reset it ) and too lazy to create a proper id.  Since I was bored at work yesterday waiting for my code to compile I was curious what was new in the DOORS worlds since I have used it for years.  First time I used it was back in the QSS days.

  • Mathias Mamsch
    Mathias Mamsch
    2256 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-07-25T23:11:33Z  

    Well the most important change is probably that the DOORS client is now available as a 64 bit client! Yes you heard right, DXL can now access all the memory there is ...

    However beware of all those bad hacks inside your DXL scripts. With 64 bit all 'offsets' of internal data structures will change, so all those tricks will not work anymore without change on 9.6.

    Regards, Mathias

  • TheRat
    TheRat
    13 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-07-26T00:39:37Z  

    I got a little excited at the thought of 64 bit when 9.6 was first released - been waiting for that for too long.  However, had to go back to 9.5 because it does not seem to work with my Sodius editor.  I believe there are other problems with automation methods - anybody any experience?

  • PatrickGuay
    PatrickGuay
    90 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T13:41:13Z  

    I have found two really annoying bugs

     

    1. All the icon addresses have changed. Therefore, all my tools now contain icons that have nothing to do with the intent for which I wanted to serve. As an example. The user icon in DOORS 9.5 and earlier is now giving me a different symbol which has nothing to do with users. Is the the offset you were talking about Mathias?

     

    2. It seems as though my attributes can no longer display RTF highlighting. In DXL, I force green, yellow, red highlighting depending on the reviewed status of my objects. My script produces the same rtf markup as it did before however it is not displayed in the DOORS module. 

     

    I can live with the icons and simply remap them however if I cannot find a fix for the RTF highlighting then my review tool will be less powerful. Can anyone provide a fix for this RTF highlighting issue?

    Thanks !

    Patrick

  • PatrickGuay
    PatrickGuay
    90 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T13:45:55Z  

    I have found two really annoying bugs

     

    1. All the icon addresses have changed. Therefore, all my tools now contain icons that have nothing to do with the intent for which I wanted to serve. As an example. The user icon in DOORS 9.5 and earlier is now giving me a different symbol which has nothing to do with users. Is the the offset you were talking about Mathias?

     

    2. It seems as though my attributes can no longer display RTF highlighting. In DXL, I force green, yellow, red highlighting depending on the reviewed status of my objects. My script produces the same rtf markup as it did before however it is not displayed in the DOORS module. 

     

    I can live with the icons and simply remap them however if I cannot find a fix for the RTF highlighting then my review tool will be less powerful. Can anyone provide a fix for this RTF highlighting issue?

    Thanks !

    Patrick

    As a side note, I tried the RTF highlighting on a 64bit machine as well as a 32 -bit machine.

    In both cases, the icons are screwy and the RTF highlighting fails to be displayed.

  • Mathias Mamsch
    Mathias Mamsch
    2256 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T13:50:05Z  

    I have found two really annoying bugs

     

    1. All the icon addresses have changed. Therefore, all my tools now contain icons that have nothing to do with the intent for which I wanted to serve. As an example. The user icon in DOORS 9.5 and earlier is now giving me a different symbol which has nothing to do with users. Is the the offset you were talking about Mathias?

     

    2. It seems as though my attributes can no longer display RTF highlighting. In DXL, I force green, yellow, red highlighting depending on the reviewed status of my objects. My script produces the same rtf markup as it did before however it is not displayed in the DOORS module. 

     

    I can live with the icons and simply remap them however if I cannot find a fix for the RTF highlighting then my review tool will be less powerful. Can anyone provide a fix for this RTF highlighting issue?

    Thanks !

    Patrick

    I recently discovered that DOORS will use a new RTF Editor component - one that produces for example a different richtext for OLEs than before. Can you create a small OLE object (e.g. one pixel paint picture) and do a

    print richTextWithOle (current Object)."Object Text"

    to find out which richtext control DOORS uses for your system (there is an rtf generator comment inside the richtext)? After getting that information, you might be able to investigate on the differencies in RTF display and find a new syntax to achieve the same result.

    Maybe that helps, regards, Mathias

  • PatrickGuay
    PatrickGuay
    90 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T14:01:14Z  

    I recently discovered that DOORS will use a new RTF Editor component - one that produces for example a different richtext for OLEs than before. Can you create a small OLE object (e.g. one pixel paint picture) and do a

    print richTextWithOle (current Object)."Object Text"

    to find out which richtext control DOORS uses for your system (there is an rtf generator comment inside the richtext)? After getting that information, you might be able to investigate on the differencies in RTF display and find a new syntax to achieve the same result.

    Maybe that helps, regards, Mathias

    This is what I get in 9.6 for a 1 pixel png.

     

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  • Mathias Mamsch
    Mathias Mamsch
    2256 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T14:38:10Z  

    This is what I get in 9.6 for a 1 pixel png.

     

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    6e6700210027001c000000fb021000070000000000bc02000000000102022253797374656d0000
    000000002000000000000000000000000000000000000000040000002d010100030000000000
    }}}\par
    }
     

    Relevant here is the part:

    {\*\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2510;}
    

    On this page, you can see, that the used RTF component is Microsoft Rich Edit 4.1:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb787873%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

    So loading a Demo from here:

    http://www.ucancode.net/RichEdit-Control-in-MFC-CRichEditView-MSFTEDIT.htm

    Creating a highlighted text in wordpad I get a richtext like this. How does that render on your DOORS? 

    string s = "{\\rtf1\\ansi\\ansicpg1252\\deff0\\deflang1031{\\fonttbl{\\f0\\fnil\\fcharset0 Calibri;}}
    {\\colortbl ;\\red255\\green255\\blue0;}
    {\\*\\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2510;}\\viewkind4\\uc1\\pard\\sa200\\sl276\\slmult1\\highlight1\\lang7\\f0\\fs22 Hallo\\highlight0\\par
    }"
    
    (current Object)."Object Text" = richText s
    
    

    Regards, Mathias

    PS: Can you remove the OLE Bulk from your last post? ;-) Increases readability of this thread...

    Updated on 2014-11-20T14:40:09Z at 2014-11-20T14:40:09Z by Mathias Mamsch
  • PatrickGuay
    PatrickGuay
    90 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T14:44:12Z  

    Relevant here is the part:

    <pre class="javascript dw" data-editor-lang="js" data-pbcklang="javascript" dir="ltr">{\*\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2510;} </pre>

    On this page, you can see, that the used RTF component is Microsoft Rich Edit 4.1:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb787873%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

    So loading a Demo from here:

    http://www.ucancode.net/RichEdit-Control-in-MFC-CRichEditView-MSFTEDIT.htm

    Creating a highlighted text in wordpad I get a richtext like this. How does that render on your DOORS? 

    <pre class="javascript dw" data-editor-lang="js" data-pbcklang="javascript" dir="ltr">string s = "{\\rtf1\\ansi\\ansicpg1252\\deff0\\deflang1031{\\fonttbl{\\f0\\fnil\\fcharset0 Calibri;}} {\\colortbl ;\\red255\\green255\\blue0;} {\\*\\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2510;}\\viewkind4\\uc1\\pard\\sa200\\sl276\\slmult1\\highlight1\\lang7\\f0\\fs22 Hallo\\highlight0\\par }" (current Object)."Object Text" = richText s </pre>

    Regards, Mathias

    PS: Can you remove the OLE Bulk from your last post? ;-) Increases readability of this thread...

      A picture is worth 5 letters.

     

    I get Hallo, no highlight, just plain text in Object Text.

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  • PatrickGuay
    PatrickGuay
    90 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T14:47:32Z  

    Relevant here is the part:

    <pre class="javascript dw" data-editor-lang="js" data-pbcklang="javascript" dir="ltr">{\*\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2510;} </pre>

    On this page, you can see, that the used RTF component is Microsoft Rich Edit 4.1:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb787873%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

    So loading a Demo from here:

    http://www.ucancode.net/RichEdit-Control-in-MFC-CRichEditView-MSFTEDIT.htm

    Creating a highlighted text in wordpad I get a richtext like this. How does that render on your DOORS? 

    <pre class="javascript dw" data-editor-lang="js" data-pbcklang="javascript" dir="ltr">string s = "{\\rtf1\\ansi\\ansicpg1252\\deff0\\deflang1031{\\fonttbl{\\f0\\fnil\\fcharset0 Calibri;}} {\\colortbl ;\\red255\\green255\\blue0;} {\\*\\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2510;}\\viewkind4\\uc1\\pard\\sa200\\sl276\\slmult1\\highlight1\\lang7\\f0\\fs22 Hallo\\highlight0\\par }" (current Object)."Object Text" = richText s </pre>

    Regards, Mathias

    PS: Can you remove the OLE Bulk from your last post? ;-) Increases readability of this thread...

    Worst part is that if I copy a word highlight into DOORS 9.6 is any column (without leaving the cell I just posted the highlighted text in), I can see the highlight without a problem. As soon as I change cell the text becomes plain text !!

    So I mixed up bolding and highlighting in a common cell. The bold is taken into consideration without a problem but the highlight dissapears. It's as though DOORS correctly takes the RTF but fails to display it when it comes to highlighting. 

  • Mathias Mamsch
    Mathias Mamsch
    2256 Posts

    Re: DOORS 9.6

    ‏2014-11-20T16:13:04Z  

    Worst part is that if I copy a word highlight into DOORS 9.6 is any column (without leaving the cell I just posted the highlighted text in), I can see the highlight without a problem. As soon as I change cell the text becomes plain text !!

    So I mixed up bolding and highlighting in a common cell. The bold is taken into consideration without a problem but the highlight dissapears. It's as though DOORS correctly takes the RTF but fails to display it when it comes to highlighting. 

    Seems weird. But without trying myself, I cannot help you any further on this. Maybe DOORS 9.6 has some cell background functionality, that overrides RTF highlights ... Did you check if  displayRichWithColour (...) in a DXL Layout column will display highlights? Regards, Mathias