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So this appears to be an exercise in "perceived performance" i.e. the client startup takes just a long, but the user "feels" like they get to interact sooner than they otherwise would.

 
If you have the SSO service installed, this really does not appear to provided a great deal of benefit.
 
Rendering whatever the user has set as their home page, ahead of the other peripheral items (such as sidebar) or saved window states would seem to be useful.
 
Do you have any prototype sequences on which we could comment ?

2 localhost commented Permalink

Just as long as when we launch nlnotes.exe it still skips the splash screen.

3 localhost commented Trackback

Why load a desktop?

 
"There is no spoon."
 
(oh, and the captcha here -- a bit excessive. I can't tell what letter they are in a couple of cases.

4 localhost commented Permalink

"It's the framework that takes much of the time"

 
hmm, if that's the case how about a "load eclipse framework on startup" option for windows :-)
 
That way it's preloaded by the time we have had a coffee to recover from the stress of logging on in the morning.
 
Is is such a crazy idea? People don't accidentally install notes, so if it's on a machine chances are we're going to launch it.

5 localhost commented Permalink

When my users load version 8 for the first time they start clicking the icons and Open button not realising that Notes is still starting up and not yet ready, so some sort of "Please Wait" would help here.

6 localhost commented Permalink

Sounds good to me.

 
I think you also need to deal with shutdown. If Samantha closes Notes then starts Notes again even after waiting 5 or 10 secs, Notes never starts. She needs to wait till the final eclipse.exe process is terminated but she has no way of knowing when that is because "IBM Lotus Notes", in her task list, disappears immediately.

7 localhost commented Permalink

Is there any chance these 'frameworks' will be more efficient in the near term? We don't all run the latest wizbang Due/Quad core processors with 4GB of RAM - rant off.

 
Pete

8 localhost commented Permalink

Sounds good to me.

 
I think you also need to deal with shutdown. If Samantha closes Notes then starts Notes again even after waiting 5 or 10 secs, Notes never starts. She needs to wait till the final eclipse.exe process is terminated but she has no way of knowing when that is because "IBM Lotus Notes", in her task list, disappears immediately.

9 localhost commented Permalink

Sounds good to me.

 
I think you also need to deal with shutdown. If Samantha closes Notes then starts Notes again even after waiting 5 or 10 secs, Notes never starts. She needs to wait till the final eclipse.exe process is terminated but she has no way of knowing when that is because "IBM Lotus Notes", in her task list, disappears immediately.

10 localhost commented Permalink

Sounds good to me.

 
I think you also need to deal with shutdown. If Samantha closes Notes then starts Notes again even after waiting 5 or 10 secs, Notes never starts. She needs to wait till the final eclipse.exe process is terminated but she has no way of knowing when that is because "IBM Lotus Notes", in her task list, disappears immediately.

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@Keith,Showing "something personal" as soon as possible -- like the calendar or day glace was exactly the design recommendation. And the good news is that now that authentication happens sooner in the process, we eventually have a better chance of showing your your inbox or calendar or day at a glance while the reast of the "framework" (e.g. toolbars, status bar etc) paints.)

 
... our other idea(Stolen from elevators in large hotels who put up mirros so you can primp while waiting for the elevator to arrive...) was to ship a little mirror with each client license and tell users to check their teeth and comb their hair while Notes starts ... :)

12 localhost commented Permalink

Perceived performance improvements are also an improvement. We install Notes locally for the same reasons. A large mail file is simply faster accessed locally. Speaking of perceived performance - Mary, please make sure that we get the mail notification in "synch" with the fact that mail is either accessed locally or on the server. If accessed locally the notification should not come until the new message is actually available in the local replica.I have been crying over this too many times...

13 localhost commented Permalink

@SouthPaw. nlnotes loads the basic edition in Notes 8. No longer just a splash/no-splash thing.

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I agree with Niels on the whole mail notification with local or the server replica. Heck, what are we version 8 of the product and were asking for 1.01 features.

 
I progress indicator thingo is probably not a bad idea given it might be a while before performance is enhanced with the Eclipse framework. We don't all run Duo/Quad Core or what ever processors with 3-4GB of RAM... yet.
 
Pete

15 localhost commented Permalink

I like Peter Smith's idea of having Elipse loaded when Windows boots. That way whichever Elipse based product is launched (Lotus Notes or something else) they will open far more quickly.

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