• Add a Comment
  • Edit
  • More Actions v
  • Quarantine this Entry

Comments (31)

1 localhost commented Trackback

I think the dots display is consitent with the toolbars in windows apps.

 
I love the idea of floating launch pads, particularly if you can lock them in other positions if you choose.
 
I also like that in your first picture the Favourite Bookmarks is showing as a menu item. I hope this will be available from everywhere, making it more consistent with browser functionality.

2 localhost commented Permalink

I may suggest using Hover Help everywhere just like in domino designer for column icons. When the user leave the mouse for a while over the three dots a litle message may be displayed saying something like: "This element may float through dragging it anywhere"...

3 localhost commented Trackback

Mary Beth, This simple concept of providing a launch button to open up the GUI is an excellent one. Users are familiar with the start button in Windows and this same philsophy should work well.

 
One thing I find with the windows launch bar, and you may have the same issues, is that users don't know how to add new items there. They expect software installs to do it for them and then very rarely do most user play with the order or folder structure. How do the users add databases or other links to their Hannover favourites?
 
The floating dialog boxes are a nice concept. My concern is that the users will not relate the dots in the launch menu with the float. They are more likely, from exposure to other products, understand that floating functionality from the dots on toolbar menus. Hence, would it be worth having a favourites option in the toolbar. This would be a button that just opens the favourites menu and has the 3-dots to allow drag to float? Simple concept and for favourites reduces the clicks the user must perform. I still think favourites should open from the launch bar to allow 2 points of access.
 
Excellent work, typically the more we see the more we would like to play! (we all look forward to beta's - perhaps IBM could do a more widespread private BETA similar to the Office 2007 programme? That works very well for allowing me to feedback to MS during their development cycle)

4 localhost commented Trackback

The bookmark bar is yellowish? Hmmm... Guess my wife is right about my lack of any sense of color. ;-)

5 localhost commented Permalink

I think the small icons on the left should provide some indication of a floating toolbar, particularly if a users icon changes like MS Word to the four arrows if you float it over the area.

 
Off topic, but will the icons be 'prettied up' more? Maybe it's just me but higher resolution icons would look nicer. Some of the onces in the original screen captures of Hannover looked quite nice. http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf/dx/hannoverscreenshots.html ?
 
Some of the Outlook 2007 ones, particular for an e-mail msg look quite 'interesting' too...too large I feel. http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/programs/outlook/overview.mspx
 
Darryl

6 localhost commented Permalink

I think it's a common paradigm to indicate floating by a dotted something. I think it's sufficient.

7 localhost commented Trackback

BTW: I'm not fond of the word "Launch". Unfortunately, I can't think of a better one.

8 localhost commented Trackback

I wouldn't have known that the dots meant that, for waht it is worth. But then, I am an old fogey and have probably missed most GUI innovations of the past decade.

9 localhost commented Permalink

Including the Workspace as a menu pick is a great improvement! Even with R7 there is no menu pick to get you to the Workspace if you have lost all bookmarks to it. We cannot expect a regular human being to create a button just to execute an @Command. Please keep this functionality.

 
Thanks 1,000,000
 
Bob

10 localhost commented Permalink

Wow, that workspace is looking a lot better :) Any chance of a blog entry about that in the future?

 
The three dots signifying the ability to float an option seem like a good idea to me - as long as it's not used too liberally within the launch bar, I'd imagine a user would notice the difference between that entry and the others, and if they didn't know they could float that item already they'd find out soon enough. It's also the kind of tip that could be delivered via a tip of the day mechanism (not that I'm suggesting you build one in, mind you - I hate those things ;)
 
A couple of points about the Launch bar:
 
1. You mention that you're going to keep the bookmark bar options the same - can I suggest you look into removing the 'Databases' and 'More Bookmarks' folders, and making it a bit more obvious that the 'Internet Explorer' folder is in fact a link to your IE bookmarks? I've never understood the distinction between the first three - it seems completely counter-intuitive to force people to consider organising things that way, or to have to flick between the 3 folders for the out-the-box stuff like workplace or welcome page.
 
2. Is the launch menu pinnable like the current bookmark bar is?
 
3. Can we as administrators prevent users from removing things like the link to their mail, or to their workspace? Or at the very least, provide a workable and intuitive mechanism for getting them back?
 
Cheers

11 localhost commented Trackback

Hi Mary, this is fantastic, thank You very very much for sharing that with us.

 
Ciao Marco Foellmer

12 localhost commented Permalink

"Favorites", "Databases", "More Bookmarks", "History" and "Internet Explorer"

 
That's just way too many.
 
First off, "Databases" is pretty much totally irrelevant. The fact that an NSF is even *CALLED* a "database" has long been a mistake. It's an "application" if it's anything. But why I would want to have this auto-generated and enforced is beyond me.
 
"Startup" is a useful folder, but why is it under "More Bookmarks?" "Lotus Links?" "Internet Searches?" Maybe back when Notes was trying to be an HTML rendering platform (back when IPX & Netbios network infrastructures were more common than IP networks,) this stuff was useful. Now it's just confusing and cluttering.
 
I don't want Notes to tell me about my IE links. That's what IE is for. Besides, I use Firefox, which Notes doesn't automatically render.
 
All of this is still too many vectors, though. The whole My Work thing was a good starting point, and it should be expanded upon. Just read the individual tab structures on the workspace, make some reasonably persistent folder out of them, improve the "database subscription" concept, and ditch all the rest of this. The people that request the workspace & bookmark models are designers and administrators who deal with entire environments at a time. The typical end-user has a focused set of applications that should be presented more portal-style than this elaborate mix of the desktop, explorer, browser and toolbars that we have today.
 
It's TOO COMPLICATED!

13 localhost commented Trackback

Hello Mary-Beth,

 
Loved the presentation in Karlsruhe.
 
I'm not convinced on the three-dots as an indication, I think many, many users will not understand it.
 
Would it not make more sense to have a little "title bar" at the top of the list of databases, clicking on the title bar (or double-clicking, or clicking on some sort of "detach & float" icon) to float that bar? Also, the idea to be able to attach such "detachable" icon bars to the toolbar would be brilliant (and pretty please make every regular "bookmarks folder" be a detachable bar).
 
I do second Nathan's statement that the current system with all those separate folders is too complex. We're already more than halfway down the screen before a user has added his or her own folders.
 
The "Databases", "More Bookmarks" & "Internet Explorer" folders (and maybe even the "History" one) should be "folded" into a single folder, if necessary with a few subfolders. Replacing the word "Databases" simply by "Bookmarks" and dumping the "More Bookmarks" folder by default would be the best solution. You don't really need either "Applications" or "Databases" as a title, since neither is correct - they are all "Bookmarks" to whatever.
 
(And "More Bookmarks" is really only a fancy way of saying 'Miscellaneous'...)
 
Regards,
 
Bart

14 localhost commented Permalink

With Ed launching Hannover as an Activity Centric client last year, and with Mary-Beth blogging about Design Personae, I had expected something different.

 
I agree with Nathan's call on complexity, but will go further... The paradigm is wrong!
 
Users interact with the Domino Platform to perform a job. - That job may have multiple facets (tasks/activities). - One or more applications are required to perform a task. - Just as jobs have facets, so too can applications.
 
Within this matrix of job and application facets, a user requires only a subset on-screen to perform a specific task. The Welcome page functionality was a step in the right direction, it allowed the user to build a "centre of work" for themselves for a specific activity.
 
Now take that concept further and allow the user(s), or their beloved administrator, to create multiple "centres" and stick THOSE into the launch button.
 
Don't get me wrong, I like the launch button, but think it's contents are still stuck in the old Notes paradigm. The whole section from mail to marketing team should be a "centre of work" of itself and only one entry in the launch bar.
 
That is not to say that the user cannot choose to have mail etc. as seperate entries, if they so choose. However I feel that by doing so as a default in Hannover, IBM stands to entrench the wrong paradigm. Let the die-hards choose to return to last millenium.
 

15 localhost commented Permalink

An afterthought...

 
What about these "Activity Centres" being scrollable (pick a dimension)? So you can move between them easily using a spinner cube or horizontal mouse wheel.
 
is so much easier than - - -

Add a Comment Add a Comment