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1 localhost commented Trackback

I think you should post both options on IdeaJam and see which one wins!

2 localhost commented Trackback

I totally agree with Ben. Please add PNG support for richtext and also for the database icons.We currently observe that many of our customers think about moving to R8 in the next months. Normally those customers waited about 2 years to move forward to a new major release. But they've realized how innovative the new Java/Expeditor approach is and clearly see it's business value. That's the reason I don't think the missing compatibility will be a real problem. But an INI variable might be a good idea for the few customers that do not like this decision.

3 localhost commented Trackback

Nathan has a good point. Support for PNGs is critical throughout the product, and far more in design than in rich text, but it would be useful in rich text.

4 localhost commented Trackback

Yeah I think this is one of those policy things. Obviously lots of customers will have mixed environments. So some will want to dumb them down to jpgs.

 
But to Nathan's point, full PNG support in Designer would really be great.

5 localhost commented Permalink

I agree with Nathan, i have to use gifs for icons and other images for transparency, but hate being held to 256 colors, jpegs are nice but not transparent.

 
Please let us use png files in the developer client just like gifs, it is the best of both formats.

6 localhost commented Permalink

Full .png support throughout the application please.

 
Take the hit on backward compatibility over prolonging conversion. As Ben says, you can have some setting if you really need it. As Nathan says, support for using it in design elements is *WAY* more important.
 

7 localhost commented Trackback

If you need more than 256 colors for your icons, you could use BMP format and use some tool to render PNG files with a fixed background color. To place such an icon on a form with a different background color would mean to simply add an additional BMP image resource into the application (database).That works as perfect as the other Notes workarounds that one needs to use in order to produce good looking Notes applications. ;-)I think it's more practical to learn Java, than to wait for Notes getting "modern". Java has built-in PNG support and other useful things (e.g. error handling with helpful error messages and a method call stack, not just "object variable not set" when something unexpected happens)

8 localhost commented Trackback

I vote for option 2.)

9 localhost commented Trackback

I'd say full, real, true support of the PNG format throughout the product - from the Design Elements to content rendering in the clients - for the 8.5 client releases and beyond.

 
Let us developers who have yet to adopt the latest release of the client worry about backward compatibility for such support.
 
It's up the developers in multi-release environments to limit their usage of non-backward-compatible elements - from not using "New in release N.n"-based formula or script, to not utilizing some of the embedded elements that are client-specific.
 
It's not like you're taking away our ability to use GIF, JPEG, and BMP when you implement PNG here - adding the PNG support is thus an elective option with release 8.5 onward.

10 localhost commented Trackback

You really need to support the png file format, since it is here to replace gif and jpeg, and it needs to be native support.

11 localhost commented Trackback

I should be clear, since Nathan brings it up, that I think it is highly unlikely anybody was talking about full PNG support in rich text but not in design. Maybe the other way around, but since forms, pages, etc. ARE rich text, you pretty much can't have them in rich text without having them in form design. Other places, such as buttons or action bars are a different story, but I would think still fairly simple. I am just not sure how clear that rich text ubiquity is to non-API developers.

12 localhost commented Permalink

Ben covered it nicely in his first post. For import--what you asked about, not all this other stuff--go ahead and do full support. The world didn't end when GIF and JPEG importing in R5 wasn't visible in R4.6 and earlier.

 
BTW the new image "type the word" verificationthing is annoying because sometimes the bites taken out of the letters make them impossible to distinguish from each other. I'm used to this sort of thing, and I don't think my eyes are that bad, but the first time I did it on your blog, Mary Beth, I had to go through 3 or 4 words to find one I could read (or guess) right!

13 localhost commented Permalink

Ben covered it nicely in his first post. For import--what you asked about, not all this other stuff--go ahead and do full support. The world didn't end when GIF and JPEG importing in R5 wasn't visible in R4.6 and earlier.

 
BTW the new image "type the word" verificationthing is annoying because sometimes the bites taken out of the letters make them impossible to distinguish from each other. I'm used to this sort of thing, and I don't think my eyes are that bad, but the first time I did it on your blog, Mary Beth, I had to go through 3 or 4 words to find one I could read (or guess) right!

14 localhost commented Permalink

Ben covered it nicely in his first post. For import--what you asked about, not all this other stuff--go ahead and do full support. The world didn't end when GIF and JPEG importing in R5 wasn't visible in R4.6 and earlier.

 
BTW the new image "type the word" verificationthing is annoying because sometimes the bites taken out of the letters make them impossible to distinguish from each other. I'm used to this sort of thing, and I don't think my eyes are that bad, but the first time I did it on your blog, Mary Beth, I had to go through 3 or 4 words to find one I could read (or guess) right! This time around, I'm getting timeouts trying to post my comment. (Each failure, I have to click Back to return to my comment and then there's a new word to type.)

15 localhost commented Permalink

Ben covered it nicely in his first post. For import--what you asked about, not all this other stuff--go ahead and do full support. The world didn't end when GIF and JPEG importing in R5 wasn't visible in R4.6 and earlier.

 
BTW the new image "type the word" verificationthing is annoying because sometimes the bites taken out of the letters make them impossible to distinguish from each other. I'm used to this sort of thing, and I don't think my eyes are that bad, but the first time I did it on your blog, Mary Beth, I had to go through 3 or 4 words to find one I could read (or guess) right! This time around, I'm getting timeouts trying to post my comment. (Each failure, I have to click Back to return to my comment and then there's a new word to type.)

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