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> I keep forgetting, who exactly asked Sun to open> source Solaris? Sun's customers, I believe, Bob :-) We listen to them ore than our competitiors. Solaris will be completely open, even the parts IBM wants (so you can come get Containers and enhance AIX). Now it's time for IBM to support that commitment to openness by either porting its proprietary software stack over or making it open source, as per http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan/20050121#an_open_letter_to_sam1

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OK, thanks for clearing that up. I don't read open letters anymore, by the way. I have it on good authority that they are bonky!Bob

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> I keep forgetting, who exactly asked Sun to open source Solaris? Wasn't there something else we wanted Sun to open source? :-)As an employee of IBM shouldn't you be more interested in spending your effort on innovating at IBM rather than complaining about Sun not open sourcing the product that you'd like openned so you can try and strangle them with it. Sun's listening to us in the community who are asking for Solaris to be opened, so that we can benifit at work and at home. Last time I asked anything of IBM all I got was a bill. POWER isn't gonna keep people interested for long if you don't give them something better to run on it Bob.

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Ben,Thanks for your opinion. The original posting was a joke (note the smiley) referring to something that happened 11 months ago. Simon is an old friend of mine, so that was some friendly bantering. No one is trying to strangle anyone with anything. I think the record around Eclipse, Linux, Cloudscape and all the other many open source projects that we have contributed to speaks for itself.Bob

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Might wanna use a (j/k) in the future. You can say alot of things while smiling and the kidding part doesn't come through. IBM has definately do a great job of contributing, personally I'm a big fan of both JFS and EVMS, both of which I use frequently, but what I don't see from IBM is a whole lot of real innovation. I'd like to see more. Java was an innovation. DTrace was an innovation. Even SGI's CXFS was an innovation. Competition is good and healthy and even fun, but there isn't much to compete with over at IBM right now besides bad over-priced service, expensive servers, lackluster storage solutions, and an admitadly kool but unuseful zSeries. AIX 5L is a massive improvement over AIX 4.x and POWER5 is a nice chip, but it just doesn't compete with Sun's solutions when you look at the total package. I used to really like threatening my Sun reps with "Shape up or I'm gonna migrate to pSeries and AIX!", but that threat holds no punch anymore... who on earth would migrate to IBM. I really hope some real change comes to IBM to push them back up, you guys have some brilliant people.

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Ben,I'm in a quandary exactly what to say to you on this topic. How about the $1B a year or so (I forget the number) spent on R&D? All the work done in IBM Research? All the work contributed to more open source and open standards organizations than any other company on the planet? We're happy to talk with you about how we can improve things, but I don't think your statements really get to the breadth and depth of what we're doing.Bob

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As I recall, IBM also dedicated tons of resources to the development -- and real-world adoption -- of Java. Heck, not so long ago Simon Phipps himself was evangelizing Java while wearing an IBM employee badge, as I recall... While it's true the early innovation happened within Sun, IBM did quite a bit for Java. And continues to be a strong supporter of Java to this day. IBM middleware is largely based on J2EE. Anyhow, it's nice to see Bob and Simon are still talking! ;) Oh, and "(j/k)"

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