Skip to main content

developerWorks >  IBM Systems  >  Forums  >  IBM System Storage  >  developerWorks

ds4700 works in DA buth not with switches. No conectivity problem.    Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in this thread


Tags for this thread: 

     

 
 

My developerWorks
 Welcome, Guest
Sign in or register
Permlink Replies: 5 - Pages: 1 - Last Post: Nov 7, 2009 12:32 PM Last Post By: Novikov_Alexander
rawlight

Posts: 12
Registered: Jun 03, 2005 06:28:32 AM
ds4700 works in DA buth not with switches. No conectivity problem.
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 11:18:56 AM
Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this thread Reply
I have a DS4700 with firmware 06.16.82.00 and a SQL cluster in tho windows machines.

We had direct attach connection and we bought two ibm brocade switches.
NOTE: We have made correctly the zonning and we have 3 disk with 12 path(3disks x 4 paths) and 3 RDAC devices.

We can see correctly the disks and the cluster services can start the aplication.
But the performance is now terrible and the SQL has lot of failures.
When we reconnect it with direct attach, the aplication works properly with no failures.
Can anyone help me? why does it work in Direct atach but not with the switches?
Thank you
djole_k

Posts: 9
Registered: Nov 04, 2009 10:35:50 AM
Re: ds4700 works in DA buth not with switches. No conectivity problem.
Posted: Nov 05, 2009 01:07:19 PM   in response to: rawlight in response to: rawlight's post
Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this thread Reply
Hi,

normaly, when you use a ds4000 direct attached the ports must work with the FC-AL or Fibre Channel Arbitrated Loop Protocol. If you use SAN switches the protocol ist "switched fabric". The difference between theses protocols is huge and have a look on wikipedia for more details. The most important point is: Switched fabric is better. You said you have Brocade Switches. Then open the Web Tools ans look at the ports. All connected Ports should be marked with an "F" as a "Fabric Port". I think the DS4000 will switch automaticlly to the right protocol. But I think the Hosts may be logged in as FL-Ports (Fibre channel arbitrated Loop). And this could be a Problem. If you hava Managment Software for your HBA's like "Qlogic SAN Surfer" maybe you can change the Protocol in Windows, if not, you can also reboot the Hosts and open the BIOS for the HBA's.

BTW. If you are on 6.16. FW for the DS4700 maybe you should update. My recommendation is 6.60.22.x with the DS4700 you don't have the need to upgrade to 7.x Firmware.

Regards,

Djole_k
Rob_Myers

Posts: 31
Registered: Oct 28, 2005 05:23:17 PM
Re: ds4700 works in DA buth not with switches. No conectivity problem.
Posted: Nov 05, 2009 05:15:28 PM   in response to: rawlight in response to: rawlight's post
Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this thread Reply
You don't say what the HBAs are or the Brocades you recently bought....

Are you possibly stepping down from 4GB to 2GB in the Brocades?
Also, just a thought...You're not ISLing the Brocades are you?
rawlight

Posts: 12
Registered: Jun 03, 2005 06:28:32 AM
Re: ds4700 works in DA buth not with switches. No conectivity problem.
Posted: Nov 05, 2009 06:48:43 PM   in response to: djole_k in response to: djole_k's post
Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this thread Reply
I have all port in the switch as F ports. I could change the parameter topology in my emulex hba, but i think this works without changing because I see it in the switch.
About the firmware issue, I'm going to upgrade right now... I woul tell you the result
rawlight

Posts: 12
Registered: Jun 03, 2005 06:28:32 AM
Re: ds4700 works in DA buth not with switches. No conectivity problem.
Posted: Nov 05, 2009 06:52:17 PM   in response to: Rob_Myers in response to: Rob_Myers's post
Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this thread Reply
Well I bought two SAN24B-4 switches and the hbas are two port (three years old) lp1100. As i said, this machines are working properly with direct attach for the last 3 years, so the hbas are not new.
Novikov_Alexander

Posts: 6,606
Registered: Oct 21, 2005 07:27:33 AM
Re: ds4700 works in DA buth not with switches. No conectivity problem.
Posted: Nov 07, 2009 12:32:45 PM   in response to: rawlight in response to: rawlight's post
Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this thread Reply
Dear Luis,

could you provide DS4700 Support Archive, zone plans from both SAN24B-4 switches and DSA logs from both servers.

Regards,
Alexander Novikov
Russia, Moscow
 Tags
Help

Use the search field to find all types of content in My developerWorks with that tag.

Use the slider bar to see more or fewer tags.

Popular tags shows the top tags for this particular type of content or application that you're viewing.

My tags shows your tags for this particular type of content or application that you're viewing.

 

MoreLess 


Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in all forums