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Community Manager Marc Siegel

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Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 10, 2007 03:02:11 PM
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Hello,
The ClearQuest Discussion Facilitators (Bob, Om, Mavi) and I will shortly be publishing a new developerWorks article that contains 11 different demos of future ClearQuest/ClearCase product enhancements. More details and a pointer to the article will be shared as soon as the article goes live within the next few days. We hope you'll take a look and provide the CQ product team at Rational with any input or questions about the coming enhancements.

More details and a link to the article will be shared once the article goes live. But for now, we just needed to start a thread in the forum so that the article can point to this thread.
Yours, Marc

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Discussion Facilitator BobDorenfeld

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 13, 2007 12:10:55 PM   in response to: Marc Siegel in response to: Marc Siegel's post
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Here is the link to the demos page:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/downloads/07/cccq_future_enhancement/

Please download and play the demos, and let us know your comments on any aspect of them in this Forum thread. We'll be monitoring the thread and collecting your responses to forward to the Rational development team.

Regards,

~Bob Dorenfeld
Trinity Software Solutions, Inc.
J

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 13, 2007 03:05:29 PM   in response to: Marc Siegel in response to: Marc Siegel's post
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I have reviewed some of the ClearQuest demos and it appears again there is much more functionality in the Eclipse integration. In addition it appears there is more benefit too using PERL.

I keep asking this question and receiving vague answers, but if my company does not use the Eclipse IDE (we use .VS) are we going to slowly loose out on new functionality for all Rational tools. For example the eclipse integration includes the ability to modify multiple schemas, Perl error visualization, compare schemas, and filter out record types.

Will I have to use the Eclipse IDE in the future to use Rational Products? Is there a roadmap? Do I start paying more attention to Visual Studio functionality


Thank you

Mick Smith

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 14, 2007 03:46:16 AM   in response to: J in response to: J's post
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Jason

My understanding is that all of the new CC/CQ interfaces are being based around the Eclipse technology and are all still independant applications. You will not need to use the Eclipse IDE to access them.

These applications are completely separate to the CC/CQ plug-ins to the Eclipse IDE.

Hope that helps

Mick Smith
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Discussion Facilitator Merav Etzyon

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Demos on what is coming in CQ - Important note
Posted: Sep 17, 2007 03:40:02 AM   in response to: BobD in response to: BobD's post
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Hello All

We just learned something about the demos. Several of them (the .avi files) require a special codec. We are attempting to update the article as quickly as we can, but in the meanwhile you might consider installing the Camtasia codec. This Codec can be downloaded from the following URL:
http://www.techsmith.com/codecs/tscc/default.asp

let us know if you have any problems or need further info

Marc,Bob,Om and Mavi

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 17, 2007 08:37:01 AM   in response to: Marc Siegel in response to: Marc Siegel's post
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We are using CC/CQ with UCM. As IBM is pushing this to more customers,
what we would like to see on the CQ side is a "delivered" state or
indicator on a record as well as a link between CQ records to the actual
UCM Utility record created as part a delivery process. Currently the
only means to determine this is via the CC side.

The main rational behind this request is that management deals with
defects and or Work package records, etc.. that are assigned to their
team of developers, etc. They want to know that certain tasks have been
completed, tested and delivered before for example giving their
blessings on that original assigned defect record to close it done. They
tend to work mostly on the CQ side then in CC. They cannot get this try
of info on the CQ side.


Regards,

Norm Dignard
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Valued Contributor Leesa_Hicks

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 18, 2007 12:22:50 PM   in response to: in response to: 's post
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You can do this today by how you configure the CQ workflow for UCM, and by the UCM project policies. You can define a state in CQ that reflects "Delivered", and map it to the UCM "complete" state type. In CQ, you must have default state transitions for state types Waiting->Ready, Ready->Active, and Active->Complete. These can map to whatever states make sense in your CQ state model.

In the CC UCM project, you can select the policy "Transition to Complete After Delivery" to have deliver activities automatically transitioned from Active->Complete state types. This might map to Opened->Delivered states in CQ, for example. This would give you the info in CQ that tells you which tasks have been delivered.

If you want more automation than this, you can add code to the hook that gets called when you select "Perform ClearQuest Action After Delivery". I'm not sure linking the CQ activities to the deliver activity would give you additional information, however. The deliver activity contains the (union of the) change set of all the activities that were delivered, but not the IDs of the activities themselves.

Leesa Hicks
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Tektronix, Inc.


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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 19, 2007 08:35:41 AM   in response to: Marc Siegel in response to: Marc Siegel's post
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Your suggestion would require us to add a new state to our workflow. In
our current design say for a defect record type, once a developer had
done his changes he typically transitions the record to "complete" (UCM
state type "complete") This does not mean that he's delivered his
changes. He may have been told to hold off delivering until some
date/event.

At this point the approval/final closure of the defect is up to the PM
types after code reviews, testing, etc...

Delivery however may occur at any point, in the defect record's life
cycle (opened, complete, reviewed, etc..) based on the project needs.
Note for example while the record is in the "opened" state checked in
files it can be delivered but this does not mean that the work is all
done. You would not automatically transition the record to complete as
you suggested. I guess the hook code could be restricted to transition
only records in certain states but that kind of negates the UCM policy
"Transition to Complete After Delivery". Based on these conditions it
would be difficult to indicate a "delivered" status on the CQ side.

As for the linking of the original defect record to the UCMUtility
record, this should be done by the Deliver action. A Parent-child type
of entry would do nicely in this regards.

Norm


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You can do this today by how you configure the CQ workflow for UCM, and
by the UCM project policies. You can define a state in CQ that reflects
"Delivered", and map it to the UCM "complete" state type. In CQ, you
must have default state transitions for state types Waiting->Ready,
Ready->Active, and Active->Complete. These can map to whatever states
make sense in your CQ state model.

In the CC UCM project, you can select the policy "Transition to Complete
After Delivery" to have deliver activities automatically transitioned
from Active->Complete state types. This might map to Opened->Delivered
states in CQ, for example. This would give you the info in CQ that
tells you which tasks have been delivered.

If you want more automation than this, you can add code to the hook that
gets called when you select "Perform ClearQuest Action After Delivery".
I'm not sure linking the CQ activities to the deliver activity would
give you additional information, however. The deliver activity contains
the (union of the) change set of all the activities that were delivered,
but not the IDs of the activities themselves.

Leesa Hicks
Central Engineering, Software Services
Tektronix, Inc.


Regards,

Norm


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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 19, 2007 01:55:32 PM   in response to: in response to: 's post
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Yes, if delivery can occur at any point in your workflow, this method may not work.

You might find the reports available in the CC Report Builder (Windows only) useful. These have the ability to report "Activities Delivered But in no Baseline", "Activities Delivered Since Date", and many other useful reports.

Leesa Hicks
Central Engineering, Software Services
Tektronix, Inc.

kolslorr

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 21, 2007 05:57:35 AM   in response to: Marc Siegel in response to: Marc Siegel's post
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Looks good, any indication of when will we be getting it?

Thanks~
chetan

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Sep 21, 2007 03:26:34 PM   in response to: kolslorr in response to: kolslorr's post
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unofficially... may be around Dec.
lgerard@us.ibm....

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Oct 02, 2007 03:41:07 PM   in response to: J in response to: J's post
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Jason, Thank you for your posting. Overall the UI strategy is based on Eclipse Technology but not the Eclipse IDE. For example, the CQ client is based on Eclipse technology that allows us to deliver it as an Eclipse Rich Client Platform (RCP) client and as a plugin to the Eclipse IDE. The CQ Client when delivered as an Eclipse RCP app, does not require you to obtain and install any of the Eclipse IDE components. It installs as any app with all the appropriate components it needs.

The ClearQuest Designer UI show at:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/downloads/07/cccq_future_enhancement/?S_TACT=105AGX15&S_CMP=LP

and to which you posted feedback on will be delivered as an Eclipse RCP app. You do not need to have Eclipse installed in order to use it. You should look at the Designer as an ClearQuest app or UI and not a Eclipse IDE tool.
lgerard@us.ibm....

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Re: Demos on what is coming in CQ
Posted: Oct 02, 2007 03:47:59 PM   in response to: chetan in response to: chetan's post
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Offically I cannot commit to when these features will be available. ClearCase and ClearQuest release schedule is on an annual basis an new features will only be available in new Versions. Each feature is being worked on for different releases and the purpose is to post these previews to get feedback from our customers. Based on feedback we may decide to add additional capabilities to a feature and delay the feature to accomodate it. So it is for this reason we do post a notices on the downloads page indicating our plans may change.

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/downloads/07/cccq_future_enhancement/?S_TACT=105AGX15&S_CMP=LP

The previous posting suggesting a dec 2007 is inaccurate.

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